Comments for The Policy and Internet Blog https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk Understanding public policy online Mon, 07 Dec 2020 14:25:49 +0000 hourly 1 Comment on P-values are widely used in the social sciences, but often misunderstood: and that’s a problem. by Otto https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/many-of-us-scientists-dont-understand-p-values-and-thats-a-problem/#comment-1 Mon, 14 Mar 2016 11:32:23 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=3604#comment-1 Thanks for a nice post guys. This is an extremely important topic. It is surprising that it has been glossed over for so long, despite the fact that most undergrad statistics students should know the problems associated with p-values.

I have a question, and a comment… First the comment: Andrew Gelman and his co-authors have written extensively about ‘garden of forking paths’ (e.g. here http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~gelman/research/unpublished/p_hacking.pdf). Their point is that p-values can be invalid even if the researcher would not have actively done any “p-hacking”. Already the fact that a researcher adjusts her analyses (data transformations, outlier filtering, choice of statistical test, etc…) according to the data she has at hand invalidates the theoretical interpretation of p-values. This is because the analyses are dependent on the data; if the data were different, the analyses might also change! This seems like a profound problem in all empirical work, and also seems very poorly understood.

Then the question… After reading ASA’s (and your) warnings, should I stop using p-values? Wouldn’t many of the alternatives proposed by ASA like bayes factors, likelihood ratios, (bayesian) standard error bands, etc. suffer from many of the same problems? If I can ‘hack’ a p-value, I should be just as able to hack a bayes factor, right? In addition, when it comes to large datasets, I might also encounter some parameter estimates which have a very large bayes factor, but the parameter estimate could still too small to be of any practical relevance, or could be a result of an invalid research design.

In addition, if we move the goalposts so that instead of p<0.05 we would set the threshold of "significant" to p<0.01 or some other nunber smaller that 0.05, wouldn't that just encourage hacking in cases when a result is close to p=0.01?

I admit that this is more a question to ASA than you guys, but ASA does not have such a nice blog as you have. 🙂

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Comment on Tracing our every move: Big data and multi-method research by Maureen Coffey https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/tracing-our-every-move-big-data-and-multi-method-research/#comment-10 Fri, 08 May 2015 12:14:48 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=3210#comment-10 “… according to one study of mobile phone location data one’s future location is 93% predictable …” This is quite astonishing in itself. I could imagine that with additional trace data this could eventually be propelled towards the 99% threshold. However, there is one fascinating facet of all “big” data analysis: that of the “missing data”. This phone example works for those instances where people USE their phones (at all and frequently). Same with the election example – you can so far interpret how those who DO use certain sites will -statistically- be predisposed towards further actions. The real Orwellian “dictator” will be born out of the interpretation of the “voids” that are left out in these reams of data and draw the right conclusions from the absence of an observable behavior. The more other people deliver big data, the more obvious these voids will eventually become, I believe.

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Comment on Examining the data-driven value chains that are changing Rwanda’s tea sector by Darragh McCurragh https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/examining-the-data-driven-value-chains-that-are-changing-rwandas-tea-sector/#comment-12 Mon, 13 Apr 2015 14:50:06 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=3103#comment-12 “… economic potential of increased Internet connectivity in the East African region …” I think you have the tail wag the dog: IF market forces were allowed to work their way through the realms of third-world agriculture, then anything (!) that might enhance its marketability or productivity, ergo profitability, would be embraced by these farmers, just as anything beneficial would be by EU or US farmers. The only hindrance is that the EU and US use discriminatory agricultural policies by which they press their surplus produce into underdeveloped markets at prices far below (!) what a local peasant earns per day (a dollar or less, depending on the region). while this might not directly affect the tea industry as the EU may not export tea, all agricultural activities are essentially communicating vessels and by draining resources for decades from the sector at large we have so thoroughly undermined the Third World and decapitalized it that no matter what snazzy technology be introduced, its wounds cannot heal as long as the EU and US insist on predatory tariff policies as a whole!

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Comment on Does a market-approach to online privacy protection result in better protection for users? by Darragh McCurragh https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/does-a-market-approach-to-online-privacy-protection-result-in-better-protection-for-users/#comment-13 Sun, 12 Apr 2015 14:49:15 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=3123#comment-13 “… no clear improvement has been made in almost two decades …” Indeed. And you could go back fifty. As long as no one really cares if an unknown person “piggy backs” on them when they enter the “secure” section of their office building in the morning, then those people surely will not care about online security either. The former are e.g. all too busy to get into the building to really want to wait until the door closes behind (!!!) them again before they proceed. They just don’t CARE! And those people eventually become CEO after letting total strangers trail them into the building on THEIR security ID (essentially). And so the CEO has the same mindset. And then that is what he/she does when it comes to all (!) other areas of security. And which is why neither do they know who has access to their computer systems (only in theory) nor do they know how many people have to be evacuated in case of alarm (only in theory), because no one accounts for the “piggy backers”.

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Comment on Should we use old or new rules to regulate warfare in the information age? by Darragh McCurragh https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/should-we-use-old-or-new-rules-to-regulate-warfare-in-the-information-age/#comment-14 Sun, 15 Mar 2015 19:58:37 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=3171#comment-14 “… contemporary societies grow increasingly dependant on ICTs …” I think, for all the technical prowess of intelligence services and their counter-insurgency measures, in and outside of the Internet, one thing is still largely overlooked: just imagine any group/state disseminating disruptive information, without even “touching” the underlying Internet infrastructure? Remember this “War of the Worlds” radio piece and the havoc it caused ALTHOUGH before and during its broadcast explanations were given as to the fictional nature of the “communication”? When i look at how real and imagined conspiracy theories spread over the Internet I would imagine a cleverly engineered plot, “split tested” with some audiences in advance, as is done in traditional advertising also, and the most 2impacting” piece selected and spread in parallel via hundreds or thousands of sources believed to be “credible” might lead to similar reactions as the “shark” film did where people literally packed their cars and fled from the coast! Currently gullibility levels rise at an alarming rate!

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Comment on Two years after the NYT’s ‘Year of the MOOC’: how much do we actually know about them? by Darragh McCurragh https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/two-years-after-the-nyts-year-of-the-mooc-how-much-do-we-actually-know-about-them/#comment-17 Sat, 29 Nov 2014 12:22:21 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2955#comment-17 The MOOC culture has yet to find its “customs” like book binding eventually made e.g. a “frontispiece” mandatory. The real revolution, like with cars and telephones (who did the owner of the first telephone connect to?), is when people become “accustomed” to something. And that must inevitably be, in my mind, like with everyone sharing a currency that can be exchanged anywhere in the world to buy the same candy bar or water or petrol anywhere in the world, when credits for MOOC attendance can be shared across all nations, continents and institutions of higher learning. Then a student in Ruanda, on a mobile device as he/she has no landline, can eventually study “at Harvard”, collect a few points from Oxford/England, Sorbonne/Paris etc. etc. and eventually, maybe, graduate from e.g. Kairo university to receive, in due time, a Nobel Prize in Stockholm. We are not there … yet.

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Comment on What does the recent LA School District “iPads-for-all” debacle tell us about the structural changes gripping the US K-12 educational system? by Mari Castaneda https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/what-does-the-recent-la-school-district-ipads-for-all-debacle-tell-us-about-the-structural-changes-gripping-the-us-k-12-educational-system/#comment-18 Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:57:02 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2986#comment-18 great commentary Paige! The thing that’s interesting about these policies and efforts in K-12 in education is that they are also couched in terms related to “digital inclusion” but you point to the irony of this especially when placed within the larger social, political and economic context as you specified. But digital inclusion is indeed important so I don’t want to let go of that term, but like you note, we do need to consider how these corporate approaches actually end up recreating digital exclusion and going against the professed goals. Nice job!

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Comment on Designing Internet technologies for the public good by Darragh McCurragh https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/designing-internet-technologies-for-the-public-good/#comment-19 Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:51:19 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2887#comment-19 “… societies that wish to ensure the continued protection of core social values …” Well, I don’t know if in this globalized age a plural is warranted when it comes to “society”. As a society we just don’t pay ANY attention to our personal data. They just get gobbled up left right and center, they get mixed up with other people’s data during transit etc. I vividly remember how I used to consult with a huge civil service organisation in a European country where, when you wanted to write a new file to disk (! – that was the 80s and it was mainframe environment, but still:) you had to fill out a paper (!) form, send it to the data protection officer with details of file structure, suggested name of file, path to file and purpose. And then it was circulated to also see if no one else had a similar file name etc. Name spaces were checked etc. Then, if no one was on a vacation, you’d get the ok after a few days to create a new … file! Don’t ask me about new folders … What we had in “over-awareness” back then we now lack completely or at least no one would save passwords on servers but just only the hash and check sum to compare to the real password whenever access is negotiated.

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Comment on Evidence on the extent of harms experienced by children as a result of online risks: implications for policy and research by Ngaitlang Mary Tariang https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/evidence-on-the-extent-of-harms-experienced-by-children-as-a-result-of-online-risks-implications-for-policy-and-research/#comment-20 Mon, 11 Aug 2014 19:47:59 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2847#comment-20 Hello Vicki Nash,
I am delighted to read this evidence related online harm caused to children that might further help experts, researchers and policy makers implementing strong online safety measures that may safeguard the younger generations from various controllable harms.

Here a brief interest of write up about your article as my PhD research study is similar on Internet related issues among school students.

Warm regards

Mary

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Comment on Mapping the Local Geographies of Digital Inequality in Britain by William B. https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/mapping-the-local-geographies-of-digital-inequality-in-britain/#comment-21 Tue, 08 Jul 2014 18:54:19 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2730#comment-21 “Of course, this procedure assumes that people in small areas will generally match national patterns of Internet use … This is the first time we have been [able to] estimate the likely use at a local level, based on the known characteristics of the people who live there.”

What would be really interesting would be to compare this data with a real measure of internet connectivity—say, unique IP addresses per household—and see which areas are more or less connected than their demographic information would predict.

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Comment on Mapping the Local Geographies of Digital Inequality in Britain by Chris Conder https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/mapping-the-local-geographies-of-digital-inequality-in-britain/#comment-22 Sun, 29 Jun 2014 08:16:26 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2730#comment-22 What you should really look into is the fact that millions don’t have access to a fit for purpose connection despite the endless hype about ‘superfast’. Only then will you see the real picture. The digital divide grows ever wider whilst government fiddles and our digital nation suffers whilst the incumbent patches up its obsolete phone network. We need fibre. Moral and optic.

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Comment on The promises and threats of big data for public policy-making by Chris https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/promises-threats-big-data-for-public-policy-making/#comment-23 Sun, 22 Jun 2014 12:20:22 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2299#comment-23 It seems that big data insights just amplify the problems governments have with learning and acting on insights from studies or small/traditional data, especially since statistical data, correlation and confidence values are harder to understand.

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Comment on Five recommendations for maximising the relevance of social science research for public policy-making in the big data era by Simone Gabbriellini https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/five-recommendations-for-maximising-the-relevance-of-social-science-research-for-public-policy-making-in-the-big-data-era/#comment-26 Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:41:31 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=2196#comment-26 Dear Helen,

I read your post with enthusiasm, I do agree with your view on how social scientists should evolve their skills. I am a sociologist and I work in the agent-based modeling field, so I had to pick up a lot of computer sciences skills in order to manage data and run computational models.
When I was working on my PhD, it was hard to find other sociologists who were skilled in computer science (at least in Italy), so I learned mainly by asking questions on mailing lists, reading books and by errors.
After 8 years I think a have mastered a lot, and occasionally I have the chance to give some of this back to young students… but more is needed and Social Sciences Departments ought to deal with this fact: students need to learn how to program, other than run statistical softwares.

Best regards,
Simone

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Comment on Understanding low and discontinued Internet use amongst young people in Britain by Santiago Amador https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/understanding-low-and-discontinued-internet-use-amongst-young-people-in-britain/#comment-28 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:37:45 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=362#comment-28 In Colombia we are trying to solve this public policy problem using a new social tool called REDVOLUTION ( netvolution) in order to inspire , not teaching, young people. Our porpoise is to show how the internet is crucial to make the daily verbs improve ( sing, make up, cook, find girlfriend etc. ). REDVOLUTION implies to chanche the point of view: internet is not for be successful is for do better what you really want to do. Im am so interested in to read your investigation.

Thank you

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Comment on The scramble for Africa’s data by Laura https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/the-scramble-for-africas-data/#comment-29 Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:54:43 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=1230#comment-29 Great article Linnet!

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Comment on How accessible are online legislative data archives to political scientists? by François https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/how-accessible-are-online-legislative-data-archives-to-political-scientists/#comment-30 Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:19:52 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=654#comment-30 Very interesting exercise. There’s a small network of people who work hard to scrape legislative data (here’s my own attempt at scraping the French lower chamber, written for this conference). There should be a way for us all to meet up and share what we have done and plan to do on that front.

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Comment on Uncovering the structure of online child exploitation networks by Martin B https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/uncovering-the-structure-of-online-child-exploitation-networks/#comment-31 Mon, 08 Apr 2013 19:42:30 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=661#comment-31 In reply to Tony Brett.

Tony, thanks for your comment. On the hit rate, you are correct, it does increase it, but only minimally. Most commonly, the web-crawler visits the website once. We may visit another time for validation purposes. These few visits are unlikely to increase their stats significantly. But this is something to keep in mind for future research on these issues.

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Comment on Uncovering the structure of online child exploitation networks by Tony Brett https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/uncovering-the-structure-of-online-child-exploitation-networks/#comment-32 Wed, 27 Feb 2013 14:45:13 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=661#comment-32 This is very interesting stuff both from the aspect of being an IT professional and from being a local Councillor interested in social problems. It’s good to see the work that is being done to combat this particularly unpleasant problem.

The one concern I have is that if the crawlers mentioned in the article are visiting these illegal sites, doesn’t that increase their hit rate and encourage more offenders to either contribute to existing sites or start up their own? Both activities that would risk more child exploitation happening.

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Comment on Personal data protection vs the digital economy? OII policy forum considers our digital footprints by Personal Data Protection vs the Digital Economy? Forthcoming OII … | Brasil Economia Digital https://ensr.oii.ox.ac.uk/personal-data-protection-vs-the-digital-economy-forthcoming-oii-policy-forum/#comment-33 Mon, 07 Feb 2011 11:21:15 +0000 http://blogs.oii.ox.ac.uk/policy/?p=177#comment-33 […] Continued here: Personal Data Protection vs the Digital Economy? Forthcoming OII … […]

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